ekhir el leil, afkar benet ma ba2a ela jledeh

i think that what you wrote is important on two levels.

first of all, maybe this is a cultural shock lal shabab in the movement, inno a lebanese (amasing) girl saying "o err" this is so nice, i love it, aslan, knowing you, inti shock kteer kbeere la7alik, inno mish cultural shock, bas a shock, inti you are a very nice lovely shock

second: la2 ya mama, il "shebeb" mish assholes, il "shebeb" ma "behon shi", i think the problem with relationships is usually us, personally,m o what we want, o what is offered on the market, maybe what you want isnt offered, o inti ya3ni mashallah biddek some knight yiji 3a white horse(o these went out of market after the industrial revolution!) fa yeahh... "shway shway 3al shebeb", ma into kaman il sabaya ishi birfa3 il daghet (ofcourse, i mean all sabaya with the exception of the one and only one!), fa yeahh, into as Ziad puts it "nafsie jowa nafsie jowa nafsie zay il khasse allah wakeelak!".

i loved the comparison to the plants, i would have been disappointed if you didnt, la2inno thats you, you do things by trees plants, flowers, fa that was nice, o i didnt get it, who isnt reading people well?

i ma 3am yefham el signs wel people wel wade3 kello henneh el shabeb ya kamal.
(n.b:kiss ekht hek text ma 3am ba3ref ektebo 3al shmel!)

ma2moun..dont give me a 'cute' comment please ...:)ta3assob dodd el cuteness
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mish mazbout...
taking it from my own experience, an dthe women im in contact with, and the talks...man we are so strong.women are tough.
kamal, remember how u used to talk about palestinian women

mmm, lets see, Jana and Jolie are discussing something, and i have to take a stand... i think il pass on that!!

am glad that relationship issues are on the discussion boards of the montada, this is good, relationships and more accurately the "unrelationships" that we get involved in are a major part of our being and consciousness i think its nice and important to be discussed.

i think the problem is always personal. never generalized. its a matter of sodaf.

i do understand what Jana is saying, o can communicate with her, o i do understand what Jolie is saying, bas ma fi majal to take a stand, la2inno biseer mashakil

i kinda have to agree with jana, the palestinian, (or for example, check out now, the Iraqi woman) has been doing for years what the palestinian man cant,, she raises the kids, the husband, and the cause, i think looking at the subject of equality or "strength" as Jana puts it should not be done through studying specific cases nor specific details of the woman's life, but the over all pressure she under goes and the daily battles she fights. so i kinda gotta agree with that.

another thing, so fi strength o "nidal" yawm, but why isnt there a feminist movement that can change the situation? i dont know!!

maybe the form of the feminist movements in the palestinian refugee camps comes in the shape of those small جمعيات نسائية, and these offices, might be the palesitnian style feminism, that is not mlokhie and na3na3 free, and does not clash with the social norms and habits like the great feminist movement in west. but then again, how do they do it then? i dont know, is raising a generation of fighters (not the current generation, but i mean the ones that preceeded it) make up for the thier rights?

i really dont know, really, bas i do see some kind of strength in the palestinian woman, ishi aktar than the male, maybe the palestinian malke has his masculinity to lose, while the woman has been suffering oppression since the moment she was born.

Hicham sharabi says that the reason why girls look more mature at a young age than the boys (who are at the same age) is a result of discrimination. while the boy gets more attention (because he is more important, because he is a boy, because of the penus) so his maturity is delayed because of the parent's care, the girl on the other hand, grows up more naturally (and lets add healthy) because of the ignoring she faces. she is one of the members that will not be counted in the family (like when the number of male kids only is said, not the female kids) she will sweep, cook, clean, serve, shut up when told to, and raise her younger brothers and sisters! after that, she is married to a male she does not know, and throughout her life, she will carry the same curse to her daughters, and she will suffer from proverbs, religious teachings, and a cultural and belief system that will oppress her, make less of her, and chain her, other than insulting her as human being and considering her half the man, (even the comparison is done to a man) and specify her role, dreams, plans, and her life path in the kitchen, the bed room, and the kids...then she is prevented from objecting to this, she is prevented from saying no, or even show contempt, she is oppressed in her individuality, her speech, and her right to think freely without being afraid from anyone!!

maybe the fact that Palestinian women are so strong, is because e they know that their husbands and fathers masculinity is worth nothing, is a piece of shit, and that a small israeli kid dressed as a soldier can kick her fathers AND husbands ass, together, simultaneously, maybe she learned that the "man"'s penus is worht nothing much, and his deeds, actions, and their position compared to what is normal and "right" is mroe important. So, she raised better kids? or maybe became a fighter in her everyday life?

i seriously have no idea....